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    at Old Testament Prophecy and New Testament Prophecy-seeing how they relate 
    to today's churches and seeing how many of today's churches are fast fulfilling 
    those Biblical prophecies, especially the prophecies concerning the end-time 
    apostate churches.

REV. ONDITI WROTE:

Dear brethren,
Receive our Christian greetings in the name of Jesus Christ. We have realized that without your financial support we will not make the ministry strong but through you support and ours we will be potential spiritually to evangelize our urban areas and rural areas especially in East African countries. Brethren Kenya our country is be devilled by greedy, injustice, corruption, tribalism and nepotism which is disturbing and this was practically exploded during post election presidential results announcement which drew our country into tribal clashes and displacements, many died and some wounded. So we urgently needs seriously strong public address system, loud speakers, keyboard and a generator which will help us to Evangelize our towns and rural area for peaceful crusades and evangelize villages for peace meetings and reconciliation crusades. We also want to pay our ministers so that they can be more effective in their ministry. Any financial support should be sent to: Family Bank Account Number 272334, ORD. Kisii Branch Kenya. We have so many people displaced, their houses burnt, properties destroyed, they need food, clothing and shelter. To say least, we can only overcome these situations through our brothers and sisters like you, and they would be sure that somewhere somewhere, there are our brothers and sisters who cares for us. God loves a cheerful give. This is our duty God has given us as Good Samaritans. We are Brethrens keepers; the time is not tomorrow but to day. We have been a role model for other countries but now Kenya is facing a serious crisis which needs your prayers daily so that the peace of the Lord will be restored upon Kenyan Brethren since the church has lost its vision of being the watchdog of the nation. We know very well a Nation without God’s conscience will always collapse. We want E.A.Headquarter in Nairobi, which will serve Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania for Evangelism Team Nationally. The voice has come out and it will prevail always.
Thanks, God bless you.
Yours in the Lord service.
Rev. Norman S. Onditi.
Supt. Minister
Kisii region Kenya

DON WROTE:

Hello Rev. Onditi:

I am so ashamed of the so-called Christian movement in the United States that has sent the message to the rest of the world-- that if they only had the believers' money, that they could do the work of the Lord. Please, do not be misled!!! If God is all powerful and those who follow Him can do all things in Christ Jesus--why would God or the believer be dependent upon the mammon (money) of the world's system???

Granted, there are times when we need money to follow the Lord's lead; but remember, even in this our Lord showed us the way as we can see at the end of the following passage from Matthew. (It is no accident that the way is at the end of this passage!)

Matthew 17:
14And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying,

15Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.

16And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.

17Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

18And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

19Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?

20And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

21Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

22And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men:

23And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.

24And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

25He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

26Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

27Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

Think on this! The disciples didn't have to set their ships out to sea and look for the best place to fish and try out all manner of bait...looking for the bait the fish would best respond to. The fish (the type of the believer) needed no sales talk or promise of riches from God. God had the fish prepared. It was were Jesus said it would be with the correct amount of money in its mouth! Oh, that today's leaders in the churches would keep their hearts, their eyes, and their ears fixed on Jesus--seeking only to know His will and to obey Him--then would the true work of the Lord be done with nothing lacking.

Thanks for taking time to WRAP with us. May the Lord supply all of your need according to His riches in Christ Jesus as you give yourself to Christ and to the lost!.

Don

To Our Cybervisitors:
B"Ann will comment upon Brother Newton's thoughts. For sake of coherence, I will insert her comments in yellow at the point they apply.

Brother Newton Wrote:

Respected Brothers & Sisters in Christ,

Greetings in the Holy Name of Lord Jesus Christ!

PLEASE FIND SOME TO READ THIS E-MAIL, IT IS OUR SPECIAL REQUEST BEFORE YOU, AS IT WILL BE A PART OF YOUR PRAYER AND WILL HELP YOU TO UPGRADE YOUR CHARITY PROGRAMS.

Let all of us change that particular Bogus System of Aiding the deserving - which is used by the volunteer Christian people of
developed countries, through which they help deserving Christians of the poor or under-development countries and from a long time are sending millions of dollars regularly for their assistance.

B'Ann Wrote:
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you to some extent. Our ministry has not participated in "fund-raising" for ourselves and others. This is not from a selfless standpoint; but rather from our own particular type ministry. We believe in the "highway-and-hedges" approach to sharing Jesus. This requires nothing but the "go ye into all the world" which is as simple as your next door neighbor, the stranger at the gate, or the beggar sitting beside the road. Our United States will not ever be able to stand before the Lord on Judgment Day and declare that they did not have the "funds" or "means" to convert the world to Christianity. We have been inundated with people from other countries the last few years. They have moved into our communities, towns, cities all of which have numerous churches that claim to profess Christ as the only Hope of The World. Yet, far too many of these "legal" or "illegal" visitors have not been approached about the simple message of John 3:16. Christ came into the world in a simple manner, He walked and talked his Ministry in a simple manner, and He died in the lowly manner that the world assigned to this unwanted, heavenly visitor. May we ALL GET OUR MINDS OFF THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR and go with the tiny Seed of Faith that we have been given. The telling and retelling of the following Scripture will do a mighty work because God ordained it to do so...

John 3:16:
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


But unfortunately, the deserving and genuine poor is not getting even a single penny of it. It's just due to the fact that those greedy and selfish persons through whom you are sending these funds to the poor, personally grasp those funds and spend that money which has been sent in the name of poor Christians upon their own personal splendors of life. In this way, they misuse the sincerity and great passion of service of yours' and meanwhile, for the poor Christian people of the deserving countries your opinion has been derived as they are beggars.


In addition to this, it's a way through which not only the true deserving gets the right assistant but also the volunteers personally get physical benefit through the aid which they had given. Another important thing in doing this act is that a person whom you are helping instead of being a beggar before your eyes would earn a respectable position. Meanwhile, by doing this we may stop the ways of those greedy and selfish persons who disguise themselves as the leaders of Ministries and NGOs and steal your sincerity and passion and the rights of the poor for their personal interest and benefits.

B'Ann Wrote:
I constantly refer to our missionary friends, Lourdis and Roberto. They were missionaries from Belgium who left the mother church, along with other couples, to set up missions in South America. They went into a mountainous area that had a temperature of 45 degrees all year long. After they arrived and set up a church, the mother church had a "church fight" and split-up. The missionary efforts were abandoned which left the missionaries stranded in whatever country they were in at the time. Some couples made it back home through funding from their families, but Lourdis and Roberto decided to remain in the mountains. They lived in a home just like the natives, they ate the food given to them by the local members, and they lived on the tithes and offerings brought by the local people. At last count, they were still there. She had developed a chronic hoarseness in her voice from the cold climate; he seemed to be healthy and abounding in faith and good works. They did come to the United States to raise funds for a large tent to take from village to village to convert more souls. This is what I mean by "highways and hedges". By the way, a local tent maker in Florida sent them back with a huge tent. We had services under it and dedicated it before it left our soil. No one probably knew about this...or ever cared. But God certainly saw and understood this "ministry of giving and receiving."


I believe that the Lord finds people from allover the world and make them agree upon one thing for His Great Service and under His supervision He uses them for His Holy Will. In this way, through our righteous deeds and acts His Name is glorified.
As the Lords says, "I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye." Psalms 32:8 KJV Being a servant of God from the last 15 years upon the platform of the Christian National Council of Pakistan (CNC), I am doing the service of the Lord. The foundations of me and my organization is upon those commandments of the Lord that He describes us the Holy Bible "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I
was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." Mathew 25:34-40
KJV

B'Ann Wrote:
We do not need to defend ourselves before others. Sometimes the more "simple" or "mundane" a movement of the Lord, the more powerful it is. Consider Christ! He spat on dirt and made a healing ointment for a person's eyes, He was born in a crude manger; Ate with with sinners; Ate the food and drink of the day; Walked and witnessed to those he met; Paid His taxes; Arrived unannounced at homes such as that of Zacchaeus; Attended weddings and did a miracle; Told the disciple that He loved to take care of his elderly mother when He ascended; He was tempted daily just as we are in the flesh; He taught the parable of "fishing for souls; He felt pain when the drove the nails into his hands; He suffer on the cross; He bled upon a spot of earth; He felt that God had left Him for a brief time... I could go on and on with the "utter simplicity" of how Jesus witnessed. We do not need "multi-million dollar syndicates" to tell people about John 3:16. I agree, however, that we do need "filling stations" for our spirit and souls just as we need them in the natural for petrol and food. We are not "anti-church building" because Jesus did teach about gathering the "loaves and fishes" into a basket or unit if you please. These churches that are gathered into a congregational unit should be "birthing soul into the kingdom" if they are about their Father's Business. If they truly make love to Jesus as individuals, the natural result will be "newborn babes in Christ" and a growing church. A church that does not make this their goal, but rather, have an organization of club-minded people, certainly does not portray this "go ye into all the world" mindset that the Lord intended. "Go ye.." does not need to be a glorious send off to a foreign country, it can and must be as simple as witnessing to your next door neighbor. If one is not a witness to their own household, their neighbors and community; then, it is extremely doubtful that they will do a great work among a people where there is a language barrier. Hopefully, these musing help you deal with "bitterness of mind". Remember, Christ walked with Judas knowing full well what he was. Within Christ's on group there was an 8% apostasy rate. He spoke of the "great falling away" and of questioning whether "there would be any faith" when He returned. So, we can surmise that the rate has gotten much higher than 8%. Hold fast to the simplicity of John 3:16.

I believe that the Lord expects us to do with the "Least of our Brethren" which He says in the above-mentioned Holy Scripture. And as it is been written in the Holy Scriptures that "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Mathew 3:17 KJV

Let us study the 3 and a half years evangelical period of our Lord Jesus. That He has practiced the same things to the distressed Humanity through His Holy Miracles which He orders us to do in the Holy Bible Mathew 25:34-40.

It was so necessary because being the Son of God - Jesus does the same things that are according to the Holy Will of God. And being the Holy Son of God He accomplishes the Holy Will of God just to teach us that we would also do the same things by walking on His footsteps and fulfill His Will.

Therefore, by the commandment of and through the Miracles of our Lord Jesus, the paradigm of Jesus Christ is our everlasting resource and it is compulsory for us to serve the people of our Lord by following His Holy Deeds and trusting on His Miracles.

My Brother in Trinity! The Christian National Council of Pakistan(CNC) is performing its religious, social, welfare and relief
services from the last 15 years and in 16 different cities and hundreds of villages of Pakistan for the distressed Humanity. The
purpose of our services is to make spiritual and physical basis of the mankind. In addition to this, a specific significance is given to this thing that we should enable our Small brethren that are narrated in the Bible as "Least ones among us", to live their lives self-supported and a part of the respectable society. For this instead of expecting and trusting any foreign aid, our motive is to be a resource to the deserving for not only spiritual and religious growth but also to make them skillful so that they may earn their own.

B'Ann Wrote:
Truly, we should be doing things to help boost the economic welfare of the people we meet. Most of the time, I see people beginning to reach out to new avenues after meeting Christ. There was one lady in our neighborhood that wasn't very clean and tidy with her person, her children or her home. After she was converted at our local church, she became known as the most reliable woman in the neighborhood. People would come to her for help in many areas of need, her children were tidy, her home was clean, and her children grew up to become successful citizens. Christ can change the economics in a neighborhood. Thanks for the opportunities that your organization is giving for more employment opportunities. However, I keep noting that you are mentioning CNC (Christian National Council). I would acknowledge that that there are many fantastic, fruitful ministries in this world, mostly unnoticed, but that certainly have the "ear of God." Take your eyes of the "Judas purse carriers" ; do not fret about them because they are already taken care of through John 3:16; and get about your call...


For this, our organization is serving our Small Brethren through its 6 different Ministries:

CNC Sewing, Embroidery & Handicraft Centers:

Lord says in the Holy Scriptures that For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: …... Mathew 25:35-36
KJV

Like on of the miracles of the Lord Jesus when He blessed the net of the fishermen and it was so filled that it was near to be torn. Jesus did this because He knew that those fish was the source of their family and by selling them in the market they earn profit and through that profit they earn their livelihood. And in this way, the necessities of the families of the fishermen would be accomplished.

In the light of our Mission Statement that is Mathew 25:34-40, we are running CNC Sewing, Embroidery & Handicraft Centers. These not only manufacture highest quality handmade products but also teach young girls for free.

The handmade goods been made by these of our centers are being sold in the local and the foreign Christian communities by the organization. And whatever funds we get through their hard work upon countless items we distribute it among them as their labor cost. In this way, it is very helpful to overcome the rate of poverty and unemployment and in addition to this, the deserving will get encouraged and keen to be skillful. Top of the most this act enables them to earn a respectable livelihood rather to beg or appeal for aid before anyone, being compelled by their poverty and hunger. For this, these centers make different types of Bible covers, book marks, handmade embroided shirts (both ladies and gents), hand embroided shawls, fancy bags, purses, bridal purses, key rings, sea shell items,leather bracelets, beed bracelets, watches and many other items like this. All of these things belong to the department of handicrafts and the deserving people make all of these things by their own hand in our centers. And these are much admired and praised locally and especially in America. In spite of all of above-mentioned items, we are also capable of making any of the additional items if you demand us to manufacture. We will provide you as cheaper as it would be and better quality on unbelievable rates.

IMPORTANT: With this, if you are the Leader of any Church, Organization, Ministry or NGO then for your organizational or Church fundraising purposes, you can purchase the items which will be made by our CNC members and then sell those in your area. This way you will also getting a financial sources for your own Organization as well as you are also assisting the deserving people of Pakistan by purchasing their handmade items and products.

CNC Bible Centers and Seminary Classes:

The Christian National Council of Pakistan is running its Bible Centers & Seminary Classes in 16 different cities of Pakistan on permanent basis. These centers teach the truth based teachings of the Holy Bible. We deliver Seminary courses of ISOM (International School of Ministries, USA) - that are being translated in Urdu Language, to our Seminary students via TV and DVD for free to prepare them for the Eternal Kingdom of God. These courses are being delivered through well-experienced and educated spiritual teachers. And in these Bible Centers the organization is providing through its scarce means and little resources TVs and DVDs free of cost so that Montessori Education System should be introduced and fulfilling the requirements of the modernism, so that students should take interest and keenly learn and study the Religious Education.

CNC Beauty Parlor Training Centers:

Through these centers young girls are skilled and being trained as a beauticians so that they may get jobs and opportunities in the society and may earn respectable livelihood for their families.

CNC Health Centers:

In Mathew 25:36 as Jesus says: I was sick, and ye visited me. Therefore, considering this commandment, Lord Jesus healed the sick and resurrected the death. By keeping all of the above in the point of view, on self-support basis CNC Health Centers are providing basic health facilities to the deserving through our limited resources. We make arrangements to provide free medical treatments to the deserving. And in addition to this, these centers also provide medical skills to the literate but unemployed persons free of cost. And top of the most through these CNC Health Centers skilled staff is earning their
livelihood.

CNC Free Legal Aid:

In Mathew 25:36 as Jesus says: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Jesus also fulfilled this commandment being an Arbitrator when some people brought a woman to the Jesus to stone her, but Jesus said first stone should be thrown by him who have never sinned. This Ministry of CNC provides free legal assistances to those people who are imprisoned in minor and baseless or Christian based false cases, through Advocates and highly recognized lawyers it fights their cases without taking any money from their families.


CNC Education Centers:

Through these centers under the supervision of well-educated and literate teachers we provide free academic education to the children so that they might be able to spend respectable lives in the society. In this way, with the students which get free education through these centers the institutors also get opportunities to earn their livelihoods.

The above-mentioned all of the services are according to the Holy Bible and its commandments for our Small Brethren. Because the Lord says that "if any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour."

John 12:26 KJV
"I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
" Psalm 40:8 KJV

I believe that if we want to be known as the sons and daughters of the God and if we want to be the followers of Jesus Christ then Jesus Christ should be present in our practical lives and deeds. In this way, through our righteous deeds God will say us "Ye are the light of the world." Mathew 5:14 KJV

It is our desire to work with you and your organization together under the leadership and supervision of Lord in the service of Lord and the distressed Humanity being the servants of God and be the successors of His Eternal Glory.

PS: CNC Centers of all of the above-mentioned ministries are been running from the last 15 years on permanent basis, we are practically and physically performing our above-mentioned services, we have hundreds of relevant photographs and videos while operating. On your demand we can send you our operational photographs, videos or documentaries.

Or if you personally want to visit our Centers physically even then we welcome you any time.

So let us! Be the light of the World through our righteous deeds! Amen.

I will look forward towards an encouraging reply from you.

With my prayers, benedictions and most high considerations!

Yours in Trinity,
Rev. Silas Godwin Newton,
Chairman: The Christian National Council of Pakistan (CNC)

Dennis Downs Wrote:

Thanks so much for posting the music. Very good indeed. I too am about same age group, born in 44. It is really neat that you note Don's faith. I too claim Jesus as Lord and Saviour.

Don Wrote:

Hello Dennis,

Good to hear from you. Yes, I do claim Jesus as my Lord and Savior--In fact, my whole life revolves around my relationship with Him. I'm so glad to say that I believer the whole Word of God to be just that--the Word of God; and I love it all--especially the following passage.. and most especially verses 4 and 5!

John 10:1-18
1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.

7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

I find it interesting that you were a musician of that era and that the Lord has found you. Not long ago, I received a call from a fellow musician who played with the remnant of my group after the Lord called me to preach and to leave secular music. He was looking for Tony Kaye and in the conversation he shared how that he, also, had become a Christian and how that in the groups he had played with, the Lord had called 5 musicians to become preachers. Sounds like the Lord not only loves the lost, but lost musicians as well!

Thanks for taking the time to WRAP with us.

Don

P.S.
The site that Dennis is talking about can be found by clicking on the "memories" button (i.e., the three hearts) on our home pages or by clicking on the following link: Don Love and the Heartbeats.

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PROPHECY: BIBLE PROPHECY-DoWeKnow studies BIBLE PROPHECY by looking 
    at Old Testament Prophecy and New Testament Prophecy-seeing how they relate 
    to today's churches and seeing how many of today's churches are fast fulfilling 
    those Biblical prophecies, especially the prophecies concerning the end-time 
    apostate churches.

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PROPHECY: BIBLE PROPHECY-DoWeKnow studies BIBLE PROPHECY by looking 
    at Old Testament Prophecy and New Testament Prophecy-seeing how they relate 
    to today's churches and seeing how many of today's churches are fast fulfilling 
    those Biblical prophecies, especially the prophecies concerning the end-time 
    apostate churches.